Ep 458 · 8 min · Fri 25 Oct 2024

Anaita Sarkar from Hero Packaging

Anaita Sarkar of Hero Packaging shares how resilience, innovation, and authentic connections have helped her stay ahead in a crowded online market.

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In this episode of Checkout, we chat with the unstoppable Anaita Sarkar, co-founder of Hero Packaging, author, content creator, and all-round e-com powerhouse. Anaita is redefining what it means to be an entrepreneur in today’s fast-paced digital world. From launching eco-friendly packaging solutions to building a personal brand with over 300,000 TikTok followers, Anaita is a woman of many talents. Her deep understanding of marketing, coupled with a passion for sustainability and business growth, has propelled Hero Packaging to new heights.

A Creepy Doll That Won’t Shut Up

Anaita’s weirdest online purchase is the stuff of nightmares— a talking doll with a mind of its own. “It’s been programmed with my kid’s name, so it says, ‘Hello Olivia’ in the middle of the night,” she explained. What was meant to be a cute, personalised gift quickly turned into a spooky experience when the doll randomly started talking at 3am. “It freaks us all out, but we don’t know how to turn her off,” she laughed. Despite the unsettling experience, Anaita can’t bring herself to get rid of it because it’s personalised for her daughter.

Nathan shares a similarly spooky experience with his Kogan TV, which randomly plays horror movie trailers at night. Both agreed that some online purchases, while entertaining, come with unexpected side effects!

Retailer Inspiration: Jolie Skin, Nakey and FAYT the Label

Anaita looks to several standout retailers for inspiration, all of whom have found success in their respective markets. Jolie Skin, a US-based brand, is one of those companies that has caught her attention with its innovative approach to skincare and e-commerce. But the Australian brand Nakey is a particular favourite of hers, “Nakey is absolutely smashing it… they are killing it here and internationally,” Anaita said, noting how the brand has quietly scaled to become a massive success in Australia and beyond. Known for their hammocks and sustainability-driven products, Nakey’s growth is impressive, particularly because they manage to stay under the radar.

FAYT the Label, led by Brittany Saunders, is another brand that Anaita holds in high regard.

“Brittany is part of the new age of e-commerce. Everyone is watching what she’s doing and trying to emulate her.”

FAYT the Label’s ability to use free, engaging content—like warehouse videos and fun social media trends—is a case study in how organic marketing can drive loyalty and growth.

SEMrush and Apple Notes: Her Must-Have Tech Tools

Managing multiple aspects of a business like Hero Packaging requires more than just hard work—it demands the right tech tools. For Anaita, SEMrush has become indispensable when it comes to monitoring how her brand ranks against competitors. “I’m on SEMrush a lot… constantly monitoring how we’re doing organically compared to our competitors,” she explained. This comprehensive tool allows her to track keyword rankings, analyse traffic, and dive deep into SEO performance, helping her stay ahead of the game.

But it’s not just advanced software that keeps her on track. Anaita relies just as heavily on Apple Notes, a simple yet effective tool that she uses every day to jot down ideas, organise tasks, and plan out her work. “I use it every minute of every day,” she said. With these two tools, Anaita has created a workflow that balances detailed data analysis with everyday practicality, helping her stay organised and focused.

How Brands Grow: The Hero Packaging Bible

When asked for a book recommendation, Anaita doesn’t hesitate: ‘How Brands Grow’ by Byron Sharp. “It’s the one thing that has made Hero Packaging the market leader in sustainability,” she revealed. Sharp’s principles on building a brand rather than focusing solely on product differentiation have shaped her entire business approach. For Anaita, the book’s focus on long-term brand development has been a key driver behind Hero Packaging’s success.

The book’s influence is evident in the way Hero Packaging positions itself in the market—not just as a company that sells eco-friendly products but as a brand that people connect with.

We’ve focused on brand growth, and that’s been a key factor in how we’ve scaled.

Anaita has taken these insights and applied them in her day-to-day operations, ensuring that Hero Packaging stays relevant, memorable, and sustainable in the eyes of consumers.

Anaita also recently launched her own podcast with Jess Ruhfus, Marketing ATM, where she dives into the latest trends in e-commerce, marketing, and business, offering listeners real-time, actionable insights from her own experience.

Cracking the US Market: Hero Packaging’s Next Big Move

Anaita’s biggest challenge today is expanding Hero Packaging into the US market, a tough nut to crack for any Australian business. After a costly first attempt, Anaita is rethinking her approach and is now laser-focused on finding a more sustainable and profitable way to make it work. “We’re really focused on international expansion over there and just figuring out what’s the most profitable way of doing that,” she said, acknowledging the lessons learned from the initial foray.

Scaling a business internationally isn’t easy, but Anaita is optimistic about getting it right within the next 12 months. For her, this move is about more than just growth—it’s about ensuring Hero Packaging can maintain its commitment to sustainability and profitability as it enters one of the largest markets in the world. With a more cautious and strategic approach this time around, she’s determined to make Hero Packaging a global player.

Anaita’s journey highlights the importance of resilience and innovation in e-commerce. Her experience shows that setbacks aren’t failures, but opportunities for reinvention and growth. By owning your processes, focusing on long-term brand building, and staying adaptable, businesses can create lasting connections with customers. Most importantly, Anaita reminds us that enjoying the process and staying passionate are key to sustaining success, even in the toughest moments.

Resilience and Reinvention are Key

Anaita demonstrates the importance of resilience and innovation in e-commerce. Her approach shows that setbacks aren’t failures, but opportunities for reinvention and growth. By owning your processes, focusing on long-term brand building, and staying adaptable, businesses can create lasting connections with customers. Most importantly, Anaita reminds us that enjoying the process and staying passionate are key to sustaining success, even in the toughest moments.

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[Voiceover]: welcome to the Checkout. We catch up with previous Add to Cart guests and ask them five quick questions to get to know them better and leave you with a little extra inspiration to get through your Friday.

[Ad]: Here's your host Bushy Today's checkout features Anita Sarkara, co founder and CEO of Hero Packaging and the author of Sell Anything Online. Anita is a self confessed marketing and e commerce nerd with a massive TikTok following and a really refreshing way of looking at life and business. And that's the perspective that only comes when you've had the experiences that Anita has. Her main business where she is the co founder of Hero Packaging with her husband Vic. It started as a solution for Anita's previous business where she was using enormous amounts of plastic to ship her products and thought that there must be a better way. Hero Packaging is now a global company that has sold over 35 million compostable mailers and has over 73,000 customers. Anita, welcome to the Checkout. It was brilliant to finally have you on Add to Cart for our main episode where we talked about everything from your brand new book Sell Anything Online through to your business Hero Packaging and how you're changing the packaging game and all the way through to what to look for in an E commerce coach and agencies. So, so much covered there. So much that I feel I got off my chest in that conversation. It was great. But we're here to learn more about you. I've got five quick questions. Number one, what's the weirdest thing that you've ever bought online?

[Voiceover]: The weirdest thing would be a talking doll that randomly talks at 3am and it's it freaks us all out in the house but we can't. We don't know how to turn her off. So it's been programmed with my kid's name so it says hello Olivia in the middle of the night. So that's probably the weirdest thing I've ever bought.

[Ad]: I would be chucking that straight outside. That would not be in my house.

[Voiceover]: It's because it's got her name in it. I just think it's so sentimental, but it's so weird.

[Ad]: I've got a Kogan TV that's in our rumpus room that will randomly turn on in the middle of the night. But the weird thing about it is that it goes straight and plays trailers when it starts up. But the trailers are always horror movies. So we wake up in the middle of the night and there's trailers for horror movies playing. We're like, oh. And we just can't turn it off. I don't know how to get rid of it without throwing out the whole tv.

[Voiceover]: You need to talk to Rosalind Kogan about that, because that. That shit is scary.

[Ad]: That was the first time I was like. I could just hear this screaming and stabbing and I was like, what the hell is going on?

[Voiceover]: It's so funny.

[Ad]: All right, number two, which retailer has inspired you most recently?

[Voiceover]: Okay, I have three. Okay. So one is Jolly Skin in America. Amazing. Also Nike, which is my favorite Australian brand. They're doing so well. And fake the label.

[Ad]: Great. Nike is the Hammocks.

[Voiceover]: Yes. Run by the two brothers. And they are absolutely smashing it. Like, when I say smashing it, they are doing so, so, so well. And they are like this successful e commerce business that not many people have heard of, but they are killing it here internationally on different platforms. They're amazing.

[Ad]: Awesome. We just had Hamish on from order editing, and he talked about how they were his first investors in order editing.

[Voiceover]: Oh, that's cool.

[Ad]: As a client. Yeah, as a client, they loved it so much that they invested in the business. So it just shows that they're thinking so differently, right?

[Voiceover]: They do. And every time I see them, they're just so clever and they're just willing to, like, you know, they just can. They say so much. You know, we were talking about vulnerability. They are just so good at that.

[Ad]: I think that's a sign. I'm going to reach out to them, see if they can. Come on.

[Voiceover]: Oh, my God, please do. I think you'll love it.

[Ad]: All right, number three, Name a piece of tech that you or your e commerce business couldn't live without.

[Voiceover]: Piece of tech, I would say Semrush. I think I'm on Semrush a lot of the time, and I. I do that because I'm constantly monitoring how hero packaging is doing organ compared to all of our competitors. And just to Add in an extra one, which is super simple, which is Apple Notes. Couldn't live without Apple Notes. I use it every minute of every day.

[Ad]: I love it. Are you paying the paid plan for Semrush?

[Voiceover]: So I. Because I do a lot of content for brands, they've given it to me for free, which is so nice because it's an extremely expensive platform.

[Ad]: Yeah, it is, it is. There's so much valuable insights in there. Love it. All right, number four, can you recommend a book or a podcast that. That our listeners should immediately get into?

[Voiceover]: Other than my own, I would say I love how brands grow. And I feel like that's been mentioned on your podcast a couple of times, perhaps by Byron Sharp, but it was. It's the one thing that has made Hero packaging, I think, the kind of market leader in sustainability and also how we have focused on brand over just product differentiation.

[Ad]: Yeah, great fun. First principles of brand. Right. And those first principles that just don't change, no matter what tech or what social comes in, they remain, remain in place. So, great recommendation. Tell us about the podcast, though. What's the name of the podcast? Where can people find it?

[Voiceover]: My podcast is called Marketing atm. You can find it anywhere. It's just a really fun podcast. 30 minute episodes of what's trending in marketing business, E Com right now.

[Ad]: Beautiful. Go find it. Marketing atm. And last question I have for you, Nita. What is your biggest challenge today?

[Voiceover]: Okay. Biggest challenge for Hero packaging is figuring out the US Market and scaling up profitably over there. We tried once. It didn't work out because it cost us too much money. And so now we're just really focused on international expansion over there and just figuring out like, what's the most profitable way of doing that.

[Ad]: Amazing. Do you have a timeframe on when you want to get over there?

[Voiceover]: Yesterday, I think probably. Where I think I'm really realistic and probably like 12 months to just make sure that we're doing it correctly.

[Ad]: Amazing. Anita, thank you so much for joining us on the checkout.

[Voiceover]: Oh, thank you for having me.

[Ad]: To hear more from Anita, jump back into episode 441, where Anita shares her thoughts on the importance of cash flow management with the kind of insight that only comes from being there firsthand. She also talks about the pros and cons of working with agencies and why it's not the questions you ask of them, but it's the experience that you have before even considering handing over those ad accounts. And then she talks about the impact of content creation on brand visibility and why you cannot afford to be inconsistent. Anita is also extremely candid about a particular tough time for her own business and how she coped. It's a great perspective on ecommerce and business ownership. Thanks for listening. And until next time, keep adding to cartoon.

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  • International Expansion
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